Skip Lackey, Senior Journey Trainer and Practitioner, North America

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“When we take a step towards grace, it takes 1,000 steps towards us.”

Skip has been a close personal friend of Brandon Bays, Founder of The Journey, for over twenty years and is mentioned in her book, The Journey, as one of the eight people who actively supported her during her healing journey. He staffed the first Journey Accreditation program, is a Senior Journey Practitioner, and the Senior Trainer for North America. For twenty-five years Skip worked as an actor, writer, director, and producer for film, stage, and television. His passion for diving into the core of human emotion has taken him down many paths. He is certified in Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), Neuro-Associative Conditioning (NAC), and has studied numerous other healing modalities. He and his wife Kristine travel all over the U.S. and Canada, passionately sharing The Journey workshop events.

Q. What experiences put you on your spiritual path?

A: I studied That’s where I met Brandon Bays, who was working with her husband as a trainer for Tony. She and I became good friends.

Studying emotions as an actor opened me to my feelings. It was like unlocking Pandora’s box. As I let go of physical and emotional traumas stored in my body, I got clearer and clearer. Then, in my early thirties, I got a call from Brandon Bays who I had met while studying Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) with Tony Robbins and NLP founders Richard Bandler, Leslie LeBeau (formerly Leslie Cameron-Bandler), and John Grinder. She told me she had a uterine tumor the size of a small basketball. She was forming a healing group of trusted friends and asked if I would be part of it. I said, “Yes, of course.” After doing emotional release work with this group, Brandon had a spontaneous healing in which her tumor went away in three and a half weeks.

Then my first marriage broke up and I went into a deep depression. Even with all my skills, I couldn’t pull myself out of it. I reached out to a handful of friends, including Debra Angeletti who said, “You remember what happened to Brandon? She’s created a process for other people to let go of emotional trauma. It sounds perfect for you.” I had gone for months without being able to get off the floor. But after this conversation, I immediately flew to Los Angeles, where Debra did The Journey process with me. I literally saw the game of abandonment that had played out my whole life. How I pushed women away because of my insecurity, which I wasn’t even aware of because it was on a deep, other than conscious, level. Ending my marriage was actually my own doing, even though I blamed someone else. During The Journey process, I had access to deep wisdom. So I continued doing the work to find out what else was holding me back.

The Journey work not only helped me, but it also saved my older son. When my first wife was pregnant, her water broke at twenty-two weeks. The doctors said our son had less than ½ of a 1% chance of survival. We used The Journey techniques and my first wife’s membranes healed over. The doctors said they had heard about that happening but they had never actually seen it. Since that time, I have helped many pregnant women with uterine infections and ruptured membranes heal.

Q. Anything else?

A: The universe gives you gifts all the time, but if you are not clear inside—or if your intention is too narrow—you might miss them. How many of us have said, “I really want this.” and a little voice inside said, Who do you think you are? You can’t have that! Those are the cell memories stored in your body. They’re little saboteurs that yank you off your goals. We have a whole course on abundance that is about how to clear these memories. Once you clear them, you can truly ask and receive.

I wrote an article a few months ago that was published in Metaphysical Journey. It was about a spiritual teacher in India saying, “Expectation is an invitation to hell.” When I heard this, my whole body started convulsing. I realized that when we have expectations, we try to hit a bull’s-eye. Often times, we hit all around it, but since we don’t hit the point we intend, we get disappointed. But, the universe is saying, “Yeah, but look what you got over here, and here, and here.” But we don’t get the message because we are stuck on one thing. We almost never hit our expectations exactly. So if we don’t accept the universe’s gifts, we’ll always be disappointed.

What works better is saying, “Here’s my intention. I’ll accept what’s given.” That’s wisdom. Follow that path. Because what you think you want is always mixed with mind and ego—and those can lead you astray. Instead, ask yourself, “What would bring me joy right now?” This question causes you to go inside where the real answers lie. You are already “it” so be “it” now. The only thing you have to do is get out of your own way.

For the rest of the interview, please check out the book, Seek The Lover Within: Lessons from 50 Spiritual Leaders.

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